. >> let's talk about alex rodriguez. you're part of the defense team with alex rodriguez. it is a federal investigation. you believe baseball overstepped how? >> the baseball commissioner authorized $125,000 in cash to be delivered to somebody who had stolen documents, and we're not dealing with boardwalk empire here. we're dealing with baseball, a national heritage. commissioner selig owes the american people -- he's a trustee -- an explanation why are you using $125,000 in cash in a satchel. this is not boardwalk empire. it's baseball. >> he had this guy. he can pay for it to get evidence in a case. >> why use cash? i want it in a legitimate transparent way with tax forms that you're required to file. we don't even know yet. they say they're going to. why do it in a way -- this is baseball. >> why is that important? >> the tactics of getting one player. if you're organized baseball, this is not another business. >> should we tell our children it is a privilege to play this game, we should not be cheating? >> both sides have to be addressed. for goodness sakes, commission